JUNE 12: BUHARI IS TRYING TO GET RECOGNITION AND ACCEPTABILITY"....HASSAN HYAT

"You Cannot Fight Insecurity While There Is No Unity In The Country And No Confidence In Government”.

“In all this four years, it has been a government of propaganda and a government of shifting blames”.

“The President should not withdraw gun licenses for those who have acquired it legally. Those who have it illegally, already, it is illegal”….. Hassan Felix Hyat.

Hassan Felix Hyat, incumbent chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP Kaduna state chapter is indeed, an astute politician and leader with genuine grassroots acceptability.

In this exclusive interview, Hyat spoke with Emmanuel Onotevure, Publisher/Editor-in-Chief on burning national issues.

Excerpts:

Sir, how do you react to the absence of a re-inaugural speech by the President at his swearing-in? Many Nigerians had expected an explanation from the President’s aides or his media handlers. How do you feel about this development?


Well, it shows that the President is having a lot of issues and a lot of shortcomings. And, I look at it from the angle that if you follow his NTA interview prior to the inauguration, you will find put that he did not really grasp the matters that were raised, including, who Mr. President is.

Even when the journalist that anchored it repeated the question, he still did not grasp the meaning of that question and people came out heavily to condemn his inability to respond to the question and, then the following day, he was to make a speech and, realizing that were empty seats, more empty seats by those expected to occupy them. 

So, I just look at it that, there must have been a lot of frustration and therefore, that could have made him being unable to tell the nation what he wanted or what he had in mind, if at all there is anything concrete in his mind, which I doubt because, you do not need a soothsayer now or a prophet to tell you that the government is directionless.

In all this four years, it has been a government of propaganda and a government of shifting blames. If PDP had brought the economy to be the largest in Africa and handed it over it and you did not dispute it until it crashed under your very watch and you then come out to say that the economy was already in bad shape, certainly, you just want to take the people for a ride. Nigerians can be so tolerant but certainly, they read in between the lines.

If you told the people that Boko Haram will be a bye gone issue and you started celebrating and showing us that you have captured; the flag of a captured territory which was even your kept territory that you are supposed to take over and you now come to claim that you have captured. 

Now, we all followed you along that line and you now come to say that you have contained it to a low level and confined it to a particular zone. Nigerians did not vote you to contain it to one zone but to eliminate it. Assuming you have succeeded in containing to one zone; the northeast. What brought about the other issues that came up during your tenure and flourished; kidnapping and armed banditry all over the country?

Now, it simply means that something is really very (very) wrong with what people say is the security architecture. You kept up with people who could not achieve results even beyond their official mandatory retirement ages. One would have thought that, if they were giving you results, and the people were saying thank you, it is then that you will have a justifiable reason to keep them so that they will keep with the good work. But, the people are condemning them and you are keeping them as if what they are doing is to your interest. That is the unfortunate thing.

One of the pains that I feel about the administration is the general feeling of the fulani per se. How the fulani people will kill and harass people on their farmlands and they will now come out to say that they are now in power; yes, they are now in power and that is why they are supposed to justify why being in power, if they really love him. If they really love him, they are supposed to rally round him and make his regime the best. He is supposed to call them to order and tell them that they should partner with him for a safe society so that, anytime another Fulani man is coming, people will be clapping and be eager but, what they are doing now is to show that anytime somebody called a Fulani man wants to take over the reins of this country, Nigerians will be very skeptical. That will be very unfortunate.

Sir, you just spoke about banditry and kidnapping that have seeming gone beyond the control of the security agencies.

What are the solutions that can be proffered and how can this addressed? Take for instance, in Katsina state, the Governor cried out. In Zamfara state also joined his counterpart in crying out but despite all of these, these issues are still increasing despite the common knowledge that the President and Commander-In-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces is from Katsina state while the Minister of Defense is from Zamfara state.

Sir, Nigerians are worried. What do you think can be done?

I align myself with the position of the Senate that the President should not withdraw gun licenses for those who have acquired it legally. Those who have it illegally, already, it is illegal. So, that is a settled issue but for those who have it officially, recognized by the laws of the land, the President cannot just wake up and say; withdrawn. It is a law and he must introduce another bill in order to make it illegal and I am sure he cannot do that successfully because, as the Senate said, “innocent people are going to suffer.

Now, back to the main question, you cannot fight insecurity while there is no unity in the country and there is no confidence in government.

The police will always come out to say they want members of the public to partner with them with information. But, when people give you the information, bandits follow you and finish you; how did they know that you are the person that provided information to the police?

It means that the police are partners with those involved in the banditry and it further means that the police have bad eggs and as such, they should come out seriously. And by this, I mean seriously to look at those who are the bad eggs living above their means and find out the source of their wealth and how they are living above their means, and deal with them, as a matter of fact. This is because, you wake up and search people’s houses who have cutlasses for farm work, some have a dane-gun that he inherited from his great great-grandfather as a hunter and you go and arrest him under the excuse that he is in possession of illegal arms. For goodness sakes! All these things that are used to kill people are sophisticated weapons; what brings in the issue of dane guns when the police say they have arrested people with sophisticated weapons; how? Are they not shying away from the truth? I believe that they are shying away from the truth.

The Immigration and Customs who man our borders must be able to tell Nigerians how manage, rice cannot enter Nigeria successfully without arrests but guns, sophisticated weapons are entering the country, successfully.

And, to crown it up, they are busy telling us, do not eat this type of rive because, it is poisonous. Is it as poisonous as the guns; the AK47’s? These guns are entering the country everyday and we have these people in position; how are they buying it and through what means and where do they raise the money? AK47 guns costs a lot of money.

We all recall the government telling Nigerians that these people are not citizens of Nigeria; from where are they coming? In order words, they are illegal aliens. So, what do you do with illegal aliens? Why can’t Nigeria wake up now and ask all illegal aliens to leave; deport them? If you want to stay in Nigeria, there are laws and rules and procedures. You do not just allow people to stay in our country; moving from one part to the other, killing people without anybody stopping them. Yet you say they are aliens? Even free movement has its own restrictions including rules guiding it.

So, if as a Nigerian, I cannot go to Niger Republic and start killing people because I have the right as an ECOWAS citizen; I have to be a good citizen, respect the laws of Niger Republic and also, promote the interest and reputation of Nigeria, what is the government doing with these neighbouring countries apart that Buhari has gone to meet with them and they signed agreements, what of the implementation? Is it the signing of agreement that is our problem? It is the implementation that will say; “safeguard every soul and the properties of Nigerians”

So, I believe that it is already high time for the Nigerian government to ask all illegal aliens to leave our country and let us get back, the correct architecture of our land. Let the government bring out a concise programme of action in consultation with traditional leaders and institutions, community and local leaders and the lowest levels of the society on how to fish out those who are bad eggs in the society and be able to keep our country safe, for Nigerians.

Sir, you talked about traditional rulers and the roles they can play. However, the federal government recently said they have become accomplices with some of these criminal elements, especially bandits. What is your take?

How many traditional rulers and religious leaders are working with the bandits? If they truly go into investigations, even if they are many, majority are innocent and are interested in the safety of their adherents and subjects; therefore, do not just make use of one isolated case and becloud it that traditional rulers and leaders are not helping matters. After all, they are not above the law. So, if one has been found culpable, such should be dealt with, in accordance with the laws. It does not stop the government as it will deter others and they will take it as law, because, if you arrest one person participating in destruction of human life and property, there is nobody that will come out to say; please, let him go. Nigerians will not tolerate it and will even be ready to lynch such a person. So, government should not use that as an excuse, at all.

Sir, a lot of Nigerians have high expectations from Muhammadu Buhari in his second tenure; that is if the court allows it. What are your own expectations from the President in 2019?

I must correct you. I do not believe that a lot of Nigerians are having high expectations. People have already lost hope and confidence in the president. So, what expectations are they having? He has confirmed it to them by not reeling out what he has to offer and we believe that, since he did not say it, we know it is going to be a continuous journey of uncertainty to where, only God knows.

Finally sir, June 12th has been earmarked as Democracy Day and the federal government plans to have a more elaborate celebrations. How do you see that?

I think the whole thing is they are simply trying to get public recognition and acceptability through the back door.

The present president, Muhammadu Buhari was hand-in-hand with the late Abacha and the Nigerian idol of June 12th died in their hands. 

Why is it only now that the president is talking of June 12th only when he started getting a lot of heat on the issue of restructuring from the Southwest in particular and then, the issue of June 12th suddenly cropped up in his mind? Remember, he started contesting for the presidency in 2003. Was June 12th not there? Did he tell the nation that June 12th was part of his interest? So, I do not believe the issue of June 12th as far as I am concerned because, it is not an issue borne out of concern for Nigerians but as a political weapon trying to divert attention from the reality on ground.        

         
         

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